Discussion:
Lailah: Jewish Angel of Night, Moslem Peri-face of God
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paghat
2003-11-05 19:57:27 UTC
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Lailah, the Angel of Night, is commonly regarded in Jewish myth as
male [Niddah 16b; Sanhedrin 96a], but the name is feminine & patently
a name of Lilith, or equivalent to the Greek Goddess Nyx. (As a male
angel the name would be Leliel, but several midrashim nevertheless
identify "him" as having the female name sometimes accompanied a la
Samael by his bride Lilith. In any case, though he or she is an Angel
of Darkness, with demonic propensities, this is not a fallen angel,
but is among the heavenly hosts).

Whenever a woman was about to conceive, Lailah intercepted the sperm
and delivered it to God, who decided its fate & sex, investing it with
a soul before Lailah put the sperm into the womb [Jerahmeel 9:1]. This
reflects Lilith's Artemis-like policies over pregnant women &
children, for Artemis decided which
children would be blessed with long life, and which would be slain
with arrows; & which pregnancies would be easy, or which would be
painful or deadly. Lilith is generally recalled for her child-eating
qualities alone, but an Aramaic incantation survives in which Lilith
is magically impressed into the duty of protecting the child's bed.
Lailah's role in intercepting sperm occurs in Lilith's mythology when
she is regarded as the Supernal Midwife who mischievously swaps souls
in the Hall of Changes, causing, for a chief example, the infant Jacob
to be born after his twin Esau.

Lailah occurs in Moslem poetic legends as "the Beauty of the Moon,"
and the highest ranking Peri (a female jinn or celestial fairy). In
Arabic the name still means "Night" but has taken on connotation of
the Moon, & of the conubial palace (or bed). Her name meant "Tulip" in
Persia, & was a nice way to say vagina.

Lailah's beauty resembles that of Allah, but it is regarded as a great
error to mistake her for God, because her beauty waxes and wanes,
while Allah's is constant. When her face turns black, she is most
certainly to be feared. The crescent moon is regarded as Lailah's
litter, upon which those enslaved by her must hold her aloft, but
others say the crescent moon is Lailah's foot-stirrup. Her name was
given to a beautiful Moslem maiden, the romance of Lailah and Majnun
being the Sufi Romeo and Juliet. There are essentially two takes on
this Romance, depending on the poet. To Hafiz, Lailah nearly
symbolizes the divine realm and is the True Beloved (God) whom Majnun
seeks to distraction with singleminded merit, but Rumi takes the
commoner tact, supposing Lailah is the Beloved but not the True
Beloved who is only Allah; rather, Lailah is the material world, and
Majnun, misguided by his passion, brought himself to ruin. This mortal
Lailah is ultimately the same as the immortal Peri, a beautiful
demoness who leads humanity astray then punishes them for such
weakness, or the Peri-faced Beloved who is Allah in the form of an
irresistable virgin, of whom Hafiz said, "A hundred of your
punishments I will bear, to experience once your fluttering glance."

To sufis the mystical quest is itself personified as a beautiful woman
named Laila. When Muhammad al-Harraq said "You seek Laila, but she is
within you" this would would seem to name the Soul, but here Laila is
regarded as the Spirit within Matter, & "she" is the equivalent of a
visit to the Kaaba at Mecca. The Kaaba is said to mark the burial
place of Hagar the Egyptian, & before the arrival of Mohammed was
sacred to the Sun-mother Allatu (who ruled the land of the dead by
night, the land of the living by day). Identifying the Kaaba with such
female figures as Hagar & Laila perhaps echoes some lingering bit of
pre-Islamic faith.

Laila also occurs in Hindu religion as an erotic goddess & protectress
of courtesans, but is a frank cooptation of the Islamic peri; Islam's
Laila & Majnun are the same as the indic Radha & Krishna.

© paghat the ratgirl
Bugga Bugga 77
2003-11-05 21:07:01 UTC
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Post by paghat
Lailah, the Angel of Night, is commonly regarded in Jewish myth as
male [Niddah 16b; Sanhedrin 96a], but the name is feminine & patently
a name of Lilith, or equivalent to the Greek Goddess Nyx. (As a male
angel the name would be Leliel, but several midrashim nevertheless
identify "him" as having the female name sometimes accompanied a la
Samael by his bride Lilith. In any case, though he or she is an Angel
of Darkness, with demonic propensities, this is not a fallen angel,
but is among the heavenly hosts).
Whenever a woman was about to conceive, Lailah intercepted the sperm
and delivered it to God, who decided its fate & sex, investing it with
a soul before Lailah put the sperm into the womb [Jerahmeel 9:1]. This
reflects Lilith's Artemis-like policies over pregnant women &
children, for Artemis decided which
children would be blessed with long life, and which would be slain
with arrows; & which pregnancies would be easy, or which would be
painful or deadly. Lilith is generally recalled for her child-eating
qualities alone, but an Aramaic incantation survives in which Lilith
is magically impressed into the duty of protecting the child's bed.
Lailah's role in intercepting sperm occurs in Lilith's mythology when
she is regarded as the Supernal Midwife who mischievously swaps souls
in the Hall of Changes, causing, for a chief example, the infant Jacob
to be born after his twin Esau.
Lailah occurs in Moslem poetic legends as "the Beauty of the Moon,"
and the highest ranking Peri (a female jinn or celestial fairy). In
Arabic the name still means "Night" but has taken on connotation of
the Moon, & of the conubial palace (or bed). Her name meant "Tulip" in
Persia, & was a nice way to say vagina.
Lailah's beauty resembles that of Allah, but it is regarded as a great
error to mistake her for God, because her beauty waxes and wanes,
while Allah's is constant. When her face turns black, she is most
certainly to be feared. The crescent moon is regarded as Lailah's
litter, upon which those enslaved by her must hold her aloft, but
others say the crescent moon is Lailah's foot-stirrup. Her name was
given to a beautiful Moslem maiden, the romance of Lailah and Majnun
being the Sufi Romeo and Juliet. There are essentially two takes on
this Romance, depending on the poet. To Hafiz, Lailah nearly
symbolizes the divine realm and is the True Beloved (God) whom Majnun
seeks to distraction with singleminded merit, but Rumi takes the
commoner tact, supposing Lailah is the Beloved but not the True
Beloved who is only Allah; rather, Lailah is the material world, and
Majnun, misguided by his passion, brought himself to ruin. This mortal
Lailah is ultimately the same as the immortal Peri, a beautiful
demoness who leads humanity astray then punishes them for such
weakness, or the Peri-faced Beloved who is Allah in the form of an
irresistable virgin, of whom Hafiz said, "A hundred of your
punishments I will bear, to experience once your fluttering glance."
To sufis the mystical quest is itself personified as a beautiful woman
named Laila. When Muhammad al-Harraq said "You seek Laila, but she is
within you" this would would seem to name the Soul, but here Laila is
regarded as the Spirit within Matter, & "she" is the equivalent of a
visit to the Kaaba at Mecca. The Kaaba is said to mark the burial
place of Hagar the Egyptian, & before the arrival of Mohammed was
sacred to the Sun-mother Allatu (who ruled the land of the dead by
night, the land of the living by day). Identifying the Kaaba with such
female figures as Hagar & Laila perhaps echoes some lingering bit of
pre-Islamic faith.
Laila also occurs in Hindu religion as an erotic goddess & protectress
of courtesans, but is a frank cooptation of the Islamic peri; Islam's
Laila & Majnun are the same as the indic Radha & Krishna.
© paghat the ratgirl
Dear Ratgirl:

I realize that this is cross posted to different newsgroups, but since
you posted here I assume you want input from Christians.

There are no female angels identified in the Bible. All angels were
created spirit beings and were all masculine. It would be imposible
for a spirit being to carry a "soul" which is natural into the
spiritual kingdom. The Creator would have no need to have anyone or
anything brings sperm to Him to affect the sex because He could do it
from where He sits if he chose to. He invented the sperm egg system
which needs no intervention from the Spirit.

While I understand that Muslims are moon worshippers, I was not aware
that they separated it into male female versions of Allah; if I am
reading you right.

Got any more info?

Thanks

BB
paghat
2003-11-06 02:23:02 UTC
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Post by Bugga Bugga 77
Post by paghat
Lailah, the Angel of Night, is commonly regarded in Jewish myth as
male [Niddah 16b; Sanhedrin 96a], but the name is feminine & patently
a name of Lilith, or equivalent to the Greek Goddess Nyx. (As a male
angel the name would be Leliel, but several midrashim nevertheless
identify "him" as having the female name sometimes accompanied a la
Samael by his bride Lilith. In any case, though he or she is an Angel
of Darkness, with demonic propensities, this is not a fallen angel,
but is among the heavenly hosts).
Whenever a woman was about to conceive, Lailah intercepted the sperm
and delivered it to God, who decided its fate & sex, investing it with
a soul before Lailah put the sperm into the womb [Jerahmeel 9:1]. This
reflects Lilith's Artemis-like policies over pregnant women &
children, for Artemis decided which
children would be blessed with long life, and which would be slain
with arrows; & which pregnancies would be easy, or which would be
painful or deadly. Lilith is generally recalled for her child-eating
qualities alone, but an Aramaic incantation survives in which Lilith
is magically impressed into the duty of protecting the child's bed.
Lailah's role in intercepting sperm occurs in Lilith's mythology when
she is regarded as the Supernal Midwife who mischievously swaps souls
in the Hall of Changes, causing, for a chief example, the infant Jacob
to be born after his twin Esau.
Lailah occurs in Moslem poetic legends as "the Beauty of the Moon,"
and the highest ranking Peri (a female jinn or celestial fairy). In
Arabic the name still means "Night" but has taken on connotation of
the Moon, & of the conubial palace (or bed). Her name meant "Tulip" in
Persia, & was a nice way to say vagina.
Lailah's beauty resembles that of Allah, but it is regarded as a great
error to mistake her for God, because her beauty waxes and wanes,
while Allah's is constant. When her face turns black, she is most
certainly to be feared. The crescent moon is regarded as Lailah's
litter, upon which those enslaved by her must hold her aloft, but
others say the crescent moon is Lailah's foot-stirrup. Her name was
given to a beautiful Moslem maiden, the romance of Lailah and Majnun
being the Sufi Romeo and Juliet. There are essentially two takes on
this Romance, depending on the poet. To Hafiz, Lailah nearly
symbolizes the divine realm and is the True Beloved (God) whom Majnun
seeks to distraction with singleminded merit, but Rumi takes the
commoner tact, supposing Lailah is the Beloved but not the True
Beloved who is only Allah; rather, Lailah is the material world, and
Majnun, misguided by his passion, brought himself to ruin. This mortal
Lailah is ultimately the same as the immortal Peri, a beautiful
demoness who leads humanity astray then punishes them for such
weakness, or the Peri-faced Beloved who is Allah in the form of an
irresistable virgin, of whom Hafiz said, "A hundred of your
punishments I will bear, to experience once your fluttering glance."
To sufis the mystical quest is itself personified as a beautiful woman
named Laila. When Muhammad al-Harraq said "You seek Laila, but she is
within you" this would would seem to name the Soul, but here Laila is
regarded as the Spirit within Matter, & "she" is the equivalent of a
visit to the Kaaba at Mecca. The Kaaba is said to mark the burial
place of Hagar the Egyptian, & before the arrival of Mohammed was
sacred to the Sun-mother Allatu (who ruled the land of the dead by
night, the land of the living by day). Identifying the Kaaba with such
female figures as Hagar & Laila perhaps echoes some lingering bit of
pre-Islamic faith.
Laila also occurs in Hindu religion as an erotic goddess & protectress
of courtesans, but is a frank cooptation of the Islamic peri; Islam's
Laila & Majnun are the same as the indic Radha & Krishna.
© paghat the ratgirl
I realize that this is cross posted to different newsgroups, but since
you posted here I assume you want input from Christians.
Interfaith studies require sensible Christian voices as much as any others.
Post by Bugga Bugga 77
There are no female angels identified in the Bible. All angels were
created spirit beings and were all masculine.
The malakim in particular are sexless, neither "he" nor "she," & quite
often in the original Hebrew the language reflects this sexlessness & they
only become "he" in English translations with no "he" stated in the
original. If gender is imposed it is done by the "sex" of the nouns &
pronouns. Lailah being feminine, Leliel being masculine, for examples.
Among christian gnostics the angel-like light-beings called Aeons are
mostly of two sexes (some are hermpaphrodites). Thus in the aeonic realm
Christos is a male light, & his divine consort Sophia is a female light.
Of coruse the majority of angel lore is extrabiblical so only tangentially
related to the Bible per se. There are extrabiblical angels named Anath &
Ashtaroth -- it's no coincidence these are semitic goddess names so these
angels are certainly female. But if one wished to find a female angel in
the Bible, this would be pretty much what Wisdom with her seven pillars,
her feasts, her treasures, & suchlike, is definitively female in the
Proverbs. The sisters Oholah & Oholibamah of whom Jeremiah speaks are
supernal women whom God sought to marry, these female personifications of
cities, or yahwist takes on the Anath and/or Asherah, "demoted" from
goddesses to angelic personifications in monotheistic thinking. Many gods
& goddesses got demoted to the ranks of angels in order to preserve
elements of pantheism without denying that God is One.

Female angels actually do abound in scripture of one includes the
hypostatic figures such as Ninua (a Goddess name given to the city of
Ninevah), supernal brides like Oholibamah, the odd female angels noted by
Zechariah 5:9, & such "fallen angel" figures as Dame Folly of Proverbs or
Lilith.
Post by Bugga Bugga 77
It would be imposible
for a spirit being to carry a "soul" which is natural into the
spiritual kingdom.
If one wishes to speak only of what is possible then one cannot speak of
God at all, an object of faith rather than reason, & not rationally
possible. The myths & legends are what they are, & to argue against them
because they can't be true is a mite absurd. And again, you or I cannot
know what is impossible for God to arrange. Presumedly he can arrange
anything, no matter how odd it would seem to us. But to be rational rather
than superstitious about it, it is humanity who created the idea of God, &
in the world of poetic & spiritual imagination there are no
impossibilities.
Post by Bugga Bugga 77
The Creator would have no need to have anyone or
anything brings sperm to Him to affect the sex because He could do it
from where He sits if he chose to. He invented the sperm egg system
which needs no intervention from the Spirit.
Neither you nor I know what "The Creator" (if there is one) might "need."
If this Demiurge were truly Absolute, then it needs nothing, not even you
or me or the earth. Since folklore can be rather whimsical, it hardly
matters what God "needs," but what sets midrash apart from other sorts of
fairy tales is how it can be keyed to specific verses of Torah. I
certainly don't believe in a literal god let alone in a literal Chamber of
Exchanges or a literal Lailah bringing fistsful of sperm to God's throne.
I merely get a kick out of the existence of such mythology & folklore, &
don't personally need to believe in angels, ghosts, vampires, or God, to
enjoy tales of all these fantastical things, including Torah, which just
wipes the floor with Lord of the Rings when it comes to rousing fantasy
adventures. But if ANY of it were possible, Lailah is as possible as
anything else that requires the supernatural to be real.
Post by Bugga Bugga 77
While I understand that Muslims are moon worshippers, I was not aware
that they separated it into male female versions of Allah; if I am
reading you right.
There was a triad of goddesses worshipped at Mecca which Mohammed
supressed. The head of this triad was Allat or Allatu; she was known in
the lands of the patriarchas as Elath or Asherah. Under her were Manat a
Fate-goddess, & Uzzah a Fertility-goddess. These may or may not be related
to the survival of a feminine aspect of Allah called "the Peri face." This
is observed by ecstatic, mystical Islam, i.e., Sufism, in the same way
that the Divine Shekhinah or feminine presence of God is observed by
hassidim & a few other mystically inclined Jews. You will encounter this
beautiful maidenly Peri-face of God mainly in medieval Sufi poetry, &
sufism alas is not the mainstream of Islam.

-paghat the ratgirl
Post by Bugga Bugga 77
Got any more info?
Thanks
BB
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"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
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Bugga Bugga 77
2003-11-06 03:16:14 UTC
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Post by paghat
Post by Bugga Bugga 77
Post by paghat
Lailah, the Angel of Night, is commonly regarded in Jewish myth as
male [Niddah 16b; Sanhedrin 96a], but the name is feminine & patently
a name of Lilith, or equivalent to the Greek Goddess Nyx. (As a male
angel the name would be Leliel, but several midrashim nevertheless
identify "him" as having the female name sometimes accompanied a la
Samael by his bride Lilith. In any case, though he or she is an Angel
of Darkness, with demonic propensities, this is not a fallen angel,
but is among the heavenly hosts).
Whenever a woman was about to conceive, Lailah intercepted the sperm
and delivered it to God, who decided its fate & sex, investing it with
a soul before Lailah put the sperm into the womb [Jerahmeel 9:1]. This
reflects Lilith's Artemis-like policies over pregnant women &
children, for Artemis decided which
children would be blessed with long life, and which would be slain
with arrows; & which pregnancies would be easy, or which would be
painful or deadly. Lilith is generally recalled for her child-eating
qualities alone, but an Aramaic incantation survives in which Lilith
is magically impressed into the duty of protecting the child's bed.
Lailah's role in intercepting sperm occurs in Lilith's mythology when
she is regarded as the Supernal Midwife who mischievously swaps souls
in the Hall of Changes, causing, for a chief example, the infant Jacob
to be born after his twin Esau.
Lailah occurs in Moslem poetic legends as "the Beauty of the Moon,"
and the highest ranking Peri (a female jinn or celestial fairy). In
Arabic the name still means "Night" but has taken on connotation of
the Moon, & of the conubial palace (or bed). Her name meant "Tulip" in
Persia, & was a nice way to say vagina.
Lailah's beauty resembles that of Allah, but it is regarded as a great
error to mistake her for God, because her beauty waxes and wanes,
while Allah's is constant. When her face turns black, she is most
certainly to be feared. The crescent moon is regarded as Lailah's
litter, upon which those enslaved by her must hold her aloft, but
others say the crescent moon is Lailah's foot-stirrup. Her name was
given to a beautiful Moslem maiden, the romance of Lailah and Majnun
being the Sufi Romeo and Juliet. There are essentially two takes on
this Romance, depending on the poet. To Hafiz, Lailah nearly
symbolizes the divine realm and is the True Beloved (God) whom Majnun
seeks to distraction with singleminded merit, but Rumi takes the
commoner tact, supposing Lailah is the Beloved but not the True
Beloved who is only Allah; rather, Lailah is the material world, and
Majnun, misguided by his passion, brought himself to ruin. This mortal
Lailah is ultimately the same as the immortal Peri, a beautiful
demoness who leads humanity astray then punishes them for such
weakness, or the Peri-faced Beloved who is Allah in the form of an
irresistable virgin, of whom Hafiz said, "A hundred of your
punishments I will bear, to experience once your fluttering glance."
To sufis the mystical quest is itself personified as a beautiful woman
named Laila. When Muhammad al-Harraq said "You seek Laila, but she is
within you" this would would seem to name the Soul, but here Laila is
regarded as the Spirit within Matter, & "she" is the equivalent of a
visit to the Kaaba at Mecca. The Kaaba is said to mark the burial
place of Hagar the Egyptian, & before the arrival of Mohammed was
sacred to the Sun-mother Allatu (who ruled the land of the dead by
night, the land of the living by day). Identifying the Kaaba with such
female figures as Hagar & Laila perhaps echoes some lingering bit of
pre-Islamic faith.
Laila also occurs in Hindu religion as an erotic goddess & protectress
of courtesans, but is a frank cooptation of the Islamic peri; Islam's
Laila & Majnun are the same as the indic Radha & Krishna.
© paghat the ratgirl
I realize that this is cross posted to different newsgroups, but since
you posted here I assume you want input from Christians.
Interfaith studies require sensible Christian voices as much as any others.
Post by Bugga Bugga 77
There are no female angels identified in the Bible. All angels were
created spirit beings and were all masculine.
The malakim in particular are sexless, neither "he" nor "she," & quite
often in the original Hebrew the language reflects this sexlessness & they
only become "he" in English translations with no "he" stated in the
original. If gender is imposed it is done by the "sex" of the nouns &
pronouns. Lailah being feminine, Leliel being masculine, for examples.
Among christian gnostics the angel-like light-beings called Aeons are
mostly of two sexes (some are hermpaphrodites). Thus in the aeonic realm
Christos is a male light, & his divine consort Sophia is a female light.
Of coruse the majority of angel lore is extrabiblical so only tangentially
related to the Bible per se. There are extrabiblical angels named Anath &
Ashtaroth -- it's no coincidence these are semitic goddess names so these
angels are certainly female. But if one wished to find a female angel in
the Bible, this would be pretty much what Wisdom with her seven pillars,
her feasts, her treasures, & suchlike, is definitively female in the
Proverbs. The sisters Oholah & Oholibamah of whom Jeremiah speaks are
supernal women whom God sought to marry, these female personifications of
cities, or yahwist takes on the Anath and/or Asherah, "demoted" from
goddesses to angelic personifications in monotheistic thinking. Many gods
& goddesses got demoted to the ranks of angels in order to preserve
elements of pantheism without denying that God is One.
Female angels actually do abound in scripture of one includes the
hypostatic figures such as Ninua (a Goddess name given to the city of
Ninevah), supernal brides like Oholibamah, the odd female angels noted by
Zechariah 5:9, & such "fallen angel" figures as Dame Folly of Proverbs or
Lilith.
Post by Bugga Bugga 77
It would be imposible
for a spirit being to carry a "soul" which is natural into the
spiritual kingdom.
If one wishes to speak only of what is possible then one cannot speak of
God at all, an object of faith rather than reason, & not rationally
possible. The myths & legends are what they are, & to argue against them
because they can't be true is a mite absurd. And again, you or I cannot
know what is impossible for God to arrange. Presumedly he can arrange
anything, no matter how odd it would seem to us. But to be rational rather
than superstitious about it, it is humanity who created the idea of God, &
in the world of poetic & spiritual imagination there are no
impossibilities.
Post by Bugga Bugga 77
The Creator would have no need to have anyone or
anything brings sperm to Him to affect the sex because He could do it
from where He sits if he chose to. He invented the sperm egg system
which needs no intervention from the Spirit.
Neither you nor I know what "The Creator" (if there is one) might "need."
If this Demiurge were truly Absolute, then it needs nothing, not even you
or me or the earth. Since folklore can be rather whimsical, it hardly
matters what God "needs," but what sets midrash apart from other sorts of
fairy tales is how it can be keyed to specific verses of Torah. I
certainly don't believe in a literal god let alone in a literal Chamber of
Exchanges or a literal Lailah bringing fistsful of sperm to God's throne.
I merely get a kick out of the existence of such mythology & folklore, &
don't personally need to believe in angels, ghosts, vampires, or God, to
enjoy tales of all these fantastical things, including Torah, which just
wipes the floor with Lord of the Rings when it comes to rousing fantasy
adventures. But if ANY of it were possible, Lailah is as possible as
anything else that requires the supernatural to be real.
Post by Bugga Bugga 77
While I understand that Muslims are moon worshippers, I was not aware
that they separated it into male female versions of Allah; if I am
reading you right.
There was a triad of goddesses worshipped at Mecca which Mohammed
supressed. The head of this triad was Allat or Allatu; she was known in
the lands of the patriarchas as Elath or Asherah. Under her were Manat a
Fate-goddess, & Uzzah a Fertility-goddess. These may or may not be related
to the survival of a feminine aspect of Allah called "the Peri face." This
is observed by ecstatic, mystical Islam, i.e., Sufism, in the same way
that the Divine Shekhinah or feminine presence of God is observed by
hassidim & a few other mystically inclined Jews. You will encounter this
beautiful maidenly Peri-face of God mainly in medieval Sufi poetry, &
sufism alas is not the mainstream of Islam.
-paghat the ratgirl
Post by Bugga Bugga 77
Got any more info?
Thanks
BB
Deart Paghat:

Thank you.

BB
angelicusrex
2003-11-05 23:37:50 UTC
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Tell you what I'll do for you, Pighat...

Since you are so verbose and offer so much "relevant" info on angels and
gods and liliths, etc. I'll copy every word that you write here, keep it
safe a couple of years, then use it in a book, making myself look like "all
that and a bag of chips" while giving you ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIT! You'll never
see the book. You'll never know it was me because I'll just use a pen
name...like pighat...then I'll be famous and you won't get squat. Sort of
like the authors your are stealing from. And don't doubt me. Your pal
Hellison will tell you, I have done this before! Oh yes! I am the great
plagiarist of our age! Nyahahahahaha! Although I think you are much better
than I! So as we authors say: "Steal only from the best!"

Know any good lawyers???

The Saint
paghat
2003-11-06 02:08:29 UTC
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Post by angelicusrex
Since you are so verbose and offer so much "relevant" info on angels and
gods and liliths, etc. I'll copy every word that you write here, keep it
safe a couple of years, then use it in a book, making myself look like "all
that and a bag of chips" while giving you ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIT! You'll never
see the book. You'll never know it was me because I'll just use a pen
name...like pighat...then I'll be famous and you won't get squat. Sort of
like the authors your are stealing from. And don't doubt me. Your pal
Hellison will tell you, I have done this before! Oh yes! I am the great
plagiarist of our age! Nyahahahahaha! Although I think you are much better
than I! So as we authors say: "Steal only from the best!"
Know any good lawyers???
The Saint
You couldn't even convince your own mommy to read a book that had your
name on it. Stacking up copies of self-published books in your closet
will effect no one since absolutely no one will ever read one, no
bookstore will ever sell it, no library will ever shelve it, & when you
finally commit the inevitable & justified suicide that is in your future,
the entire edition will soon thereafter be transferred from your storage
bin to a dumpster. So what's the difference if you stole it from me or
from the Encyclopedia Britannica?

Even if you imposed yourself on an audience by reading your vanity press
book out loud to fellow inmates during your next stay in the asylum,
everyone already knows you lack the intelligence of a pygmy marmoset, so
anything you self-published in the past or in the future, if any part of
it makes any sense at all, everyone will know at once you plagiarised it.
It's not like anyone ever imagined you were capable of originality.

-paghat
--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/
angelicusrex
2003-11-06 05:38:46 UTC
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Post by paghat
You couldn't even convince your own mommy to read a book that had your
name on it.
So what? Is convincing one's mother to read one's book some sort of
prerequisite to fame? I'd rather think it was pretty pathetic to say "Well,
at least I got my mother to read my book."
Post by paghat
Stacking up copies of self-published books in your closet
will effect no one since absolutely no one will ever read one,
Sorry, I've already sold a lot and alot of people have read them. So you are
too late. Plus this sounds like the typical "jealous loser" insult to me.
"No one would read a book by you!" Boo hoo. You really mean no one has read
a book by you, because you have no book.
Post by paghat
no
bookstore will ever sell it,
Barnes and Noble and Amazon.Com and Borders all sell it, dear. And your book
is sold where?
Post by paghat
no library will ever shelve it, & when you
finally commit the inevitable & justified suicide that is in your future,
You know this immature "You will (or should) commit suicide!" insult is one
of the oldest in NG history. Get a new act, Pighat.
Post by paghat
the entire edition will soon thereafter be transferred from your storage
bin to a dumpster. So what's the difference if you stole it from me or
from the Encyclopedia Britannica?
Well, since you stole most of your works from the E.B. and various other
authors, I don't suppose it will matter much if a book I write under YOUR
pseudonym with YOUR information in it will ever sell. I think then it should
be you killing yourself. Since it will be your tripe that doesn't sell and
never will. Do you need a gun?
Post by paghat
Even if you imposed yourself on an audience by reading your vanity press
book out loud to fellow inmates during your next stay in the asylum,
Ah, the asylum insult. The Second Oldest insult in NG history. The third of
course being "Have you taken your medication."
Post by paghat
everyone already knows you lack the intelligence of a pygmy marmoset,
Well, I guess that's better than having a face like a pygmy marmoset's ass,
like you do.

As a male, my brainis already larger than yours. And mine is much more
fascile. Intellect is not your strong suit. All you do is tout some
demonesse trickster archetype named lilith as your personal goddess and
inject her into everything you write. Big deal. It's meaningless dross.

And who is everyone? You mean everyone on the entire planet? Or just
everyone in your head?
Post by paghat
so
anything you self-published in the past or in the future, if any part of
it makes any sense at all, everyone will know at once you plagiarised it.
It's not like anyone ever imagined you were capable of originality.
I see, and this is because "everyone" reads your pompous letters to people
you don't know on some unknown NG?

Give it up pighat. Your stuff is old, moldy and stale.

-What is it you are afraid of my child?
I am afraid that I am insane, little pighat said.
Do not be afraid little pighat. You are insane.
That's why you are talking to yourself. Lilith chittered like a pygmy
marmoset on heroin.
Now write some more psychotic poetry, dear, or I will kill you. She said.

The Saint

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